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I have long known of dum-dum bullets just never knew the name was from a town in India.We offer free consultation. He didn't invent the bullet itself, but should probably get credit for giving the bullet its common name. So, you are right - something a bit wrong with my choice of words patent lawyers can debate who actually owns the original patent but it seems clear that the name dum-dum for the soft-core expanding bullet comes from Bertie-Clay's testing in India. The name dum-dum bullet coming from the Indian town of Dum Dum where the arsenal was located. They were subsequently used by the British Army and Bertie-Clay reportedly filed a patent for the "dum dum" bullet in 1896-1897. 303 rifle during the Afghan war so, they brought some of these soft core expanding bullets - Tweedie's design - to India for testing at the Indian Ordnance Department arsenal in Dum Dum, India - where Bertie-Clay was the superintendent. So, what is Bertie-Clay's claim? I have found a Dutch language article (unknown source) that stated that in 1895 the British Army was having trouble with the stopping power of its. It states Tweedie applied for a patent in the UK, but it had not yet been granted. It also lists other patents, including France, Belgium and Italy. I have even found a copy of Tweedie's US patent request online dated Aug 1892. I found a NY Times article from June 1892, crediting Tweedie with the patent. In fact, in 1897 a MG Michael Tweedie challenged Bertie-Clay's claim - which reportedly was hotly debated in a London journal The Engineer (but I haven't found any articles from this journal). This is actually a good question one which I have been researching a bit.Īs you state, a soft-core expanding bullet had been around for some time before 1897. Mostly trying to figure out what a RGA officer is doing with the French Red Cross, but anything else anyone knows about this officer would be appreciated.Ĭredited by whom? Dum dums (rounds with the jacket removed around the tip) had been around some time and were replaced in 1897 by the hollow point round. Nothing shows up with the usual internet searches (other than the dum-dum bullet connection). Another connection to the French Red Cross? (Indian Ordnance Department) gazetted Croix de Guerre. Seems extremely curious that the inventor of the dum-dum bullet ended up working for the Red Cross in the Great War! Most curious on his MIC, however, is that he is listed as both "Royal Artillery" and "French Red Cross"!ĭo his appointments in 1917-1918 as reflected in the Gazette have anything to do with the French Red Cross? GG"?Īccording to his MIC, he is entitled to the QSA (with multiple clasps), Victory Medal and War Medal having entered the France 1a Theater in 1918. GG and to remain secondedĬan anyone tell me what a "special appointment as a Staff Lt, 1st Cl." means also what is a special appointment as a "Cl. Bertie-Clay, R.A., special appointment Cl. Bertie-Clay, R.A., special appointment graded for purposes of pay as Staff Lt. Follow are the Gazette entries for this period:Ģ1 June 1917 Lt. I traced his promotions and appointments to the Indian Ordnance Department via the Gazette he was a Lt. Bertie-Clay, Royal Garrison Artillery, who is credited with inventing the dum-dum bullet in 1897, while Superintendent, Royal Artillery Arsenal, in Dum Dum, India. I recently obtained a pre-WWI photo of Neville S.